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Does Hours per day reflect ban rate?

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This is unknown as jagex would never share such data. Botters have assumed positions on both sides of the spectrum (some bot few hours a day, some 12 hours straight, and some 24/7). Regarding bans, all you have is anecdotal evidence on the forums. My suggestion is to try different botting strategies/settings on a throwaway account before attempting it with an account you value. 

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Survivorship bias:

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Survivorship bias or survival bias is the logical error of concentrating on the people or things that made it past some selection process and overlooking those that did not, typically because of their lack of visibility. This can lead to false conclusions in several different ways. It is a form of selection bias.

For every 50 hour proggie out there, there are 100 accounts banned doing the exact same thing. 

There are a number of factors that go into an accounts survivability wrt bans, and we cannot completely understand how these factors affect bans. And it is my anecdotal belief that the more human like you bot, the less likely you are to be banned as it is a factor that MAY influence your ban rate.

That's why I bot exactly how I would play- and I personally cannot play 15 hours a day under normal circumstances. So I stick to more logical playtimes.

In doing so, I've never been banned. (Not counting an account I intentionally suicided just to see what it would take to get banned)

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9 minutes ago, BitzLeon said:

Survivorship bias:

For every 50 hour proggie out there, there are 100 accounts banned doing the exact same thing. 

There are a number of factors that go into an accounts survivability wrt bans, and we cannot completely understand how these factors affect bans. And it is my anecdotal belief that the more human like you bot, the less likely you are to be banned as it is a factor that MAY influence your ban rate.

That's why I bot exactly how I would play- and I personally cannot play 15 hours a day under normal circumstances. So I stick to more logical playtimes.

In doing so, I've never been banned. (Not counting an account I intentionally suicided just to see what it would take to get banned)

Well written, no one truly knows what jagex does to detect bots

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21 minutes ago, BitzLeon said:

Survivorship bias:

For every 50 hour proggie out there, there are 100 accounts banned doing the exact same thing. 

There are a number of factors that go into an accounts survivability wrt bans, and we cannot completely understand how these factors affect bans. And it is my anecdotal belief that the more human like you bot, the less likely you are to be banned as it is a factor that MAY influence your ban rate.

That's why I bot exactly how I would play- and I personally cannot play 15 hours a day under normal circumstances. So I stick to more logical playtimes.

In doing so, I've never been banned. (Not counting an account I intentionally suicided just to see what it would take to get banned)

People, who think botting 24/7 works well because they've had success doing it during Holiday period, are probably going to learn otherwise very soon.

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People, who think botting 24/7 works well because they've had success doing it during Holiday period, are probably going to learn otherwise very soon.

That to me is the weirdest assumption. Do they think all analytical play data isn't recorded just because no one is in the office? ? 

I mean, why would they would be using some sort of automation to combat automation. /s 

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2 hours ago, BitzLeon said:

Survivorship bias:

For every 50 hour proggie out there, there are 100 accounts banned doing the exact same thing. 

There are a number of factors that go into an accounts survivability wrt bans, and we cannot completely understand how these factors affect bans. And it is my anecdotal belief that the more human like you bot, the less likely you are to be banned as it is a factor that MAY influence your ban rate.

That's why I bot exactly how I would play- and I personally cannot play 15 hours a day under normal circumstances. So I stick to more logical playtimes.

In doing so, I've never been banned. (Not counting an account I intentionally suicided just to see what it would take to get banned)

Do you have a main account by any chance? And if so, how far have you managed to get it with botting like this? Also, how long have you been botting for?

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33 minutes ago, gyrate said:

Do you have a main account by any chance? And if so, how far have you managed to get it with botting like this? Also, how long have you been botting for?

Yes, since 2010. Same account, no bans. I botted all of rs3 and now osrs. Again, survivorship bias- Everything I say is anecdotal so I cannot write you a guide on being safe without outright saying "bot as you would play". (Which honestly, is the only advice I can give)

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i find you have a lot higher ban rate if you are earning GP as it effects their economy system on a mass scale, but as bitzleon said, its purely anecdotal evidence based on my experience, also, i found it helps to have botted an account that has plenty of legit playtime on it, as i had 6 zulrah accounts banned today but my main that i have 2000+ legit hrs playtime survived, all botted 17-20 hours a day for the past two weeks

 

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2 hours ago, BitzLeon said:

Yes, since 2010. Same account, no bans. I botted all of rs3 and now osrs. Again, survivorship bias- Everything I say is anecdotal so I cannot write you a guide on being safe without outright saying "bot as you would play". (Which honestly, is the only advice I can give)

Is it maxed by now? That's a lot of botting, even if you only started osrs in 2014

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