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Autoclicking after 2 day ban??

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Quick one here.

Botted 99 str 88 att 75 def 99 range and 94 mage + all skilling stats for barrows gloves and i got a 2 day ban a few months ago.

I just found out now about Auto clicking rapid heal at nmz and i was wanting to get 95 att and 90 def. 

I know slightly randomized auto clicking is not that detectable but i was wondering how detectable it would be with my account being flagged. The fact that its randomized and i wouldnt be suiciding nmz makes me think its not that risky if im doing it for 2 hours considering i nmz legit for 2 hours anyways, just getting annoying clicking twice every minute while trying to watch a movie or something ;)

Let me know what you think boys. 

 

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1 hour ago, Naton said:

I mean if you truly care about the account then you probably shouldn't. You could always use something that just sends notifications when you need to perform an action so that you don't really have to focus on the game screen

Im just trying to be able to still gain some exp while i shower, eat dinner, watch a movie ect without actually using a botting client

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1 hour ago, acezeps said:

I know slightly randomized auto clicking is not that detectable but i was wondering how detectable it would be with my account being flagged.

Adding randomization will make absolutely no difference; they can detect this kind of third party software within seconds.

However, although it's nearly impossible not to get detected, they seem to indulge this kind of "botting" to some extent.

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13 hours ago, Einstein said:

Adding randomization will make absolutely no difference; they can detect this kind of third party software within seconds.

I disagree. If your click is designed to mirror human click intervals & occasionally "misclick", it's virtually undetectable. 

I maxed my main using a private auto clicker in NMZ and ran ~12-14 hours a day with no issues. 

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Just now, Jooq said:

I disagree. If your click is designed to mirror human click intervals & occasionally "misclick", it's virtually undetectable.

It doesn't matter if you disagree, auto clicking is detected almost instantaneously.

 

4 minutes ago, Jooq said:

I maxed my main using a private auto clicker in NMZ and ran ~12-14 hours a day with no issues. 

A lot of users have achieved similar results, and the reason for that is that:

14 hours ago, Einstein said:

they seem to indulge this kind of "botting" to some extent

 

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Just now, Jooq said:

Very curious to hear more about this.. Proof of this instant detection?

 

Since this information is only available to Jagex's detection team, nobody can offer you undeniable proof, but this should never stop us from making an educated guess.

First of all, the OP is referring to a notorious Visual Basic program that clicks at fixed intervals and has exactly 0 ms delay between the mouse-press and mouse-release events. I don't think I need to say anything more in regards to why this is probably the easiest to detect automation tool ever created for RuneScape.

You were referring to a custom created auto clicker that you attempted to calibrate in order to replicate real human clicking patterns. This is obviously better in terms of preventing detection than the program mentioned earlier, but it's still awfully easy to detect.

Assuming that over 95% of your auto-clicker's actions consist of clicking, it doesn't matter what kind of randomization you've used, because you are providing them with an immense amount of clicking data within a very short time-span. Within one hour, they will know precisely what are the minimum, maximum and average intervals for your clicks, as well all other related data that you wouldn't even think that they are tracking, that will make your script look incredibly different from a human player.

There are simply too many factors such as fatigue, human-like inevitable breaks, variance in performance, tendency and patterns of miss-clicking (yes, miss-clicks are not entirely random and every human miss-clicks in a slightly different way), inconsistency and many, many other factors that you need to take into account and add into you script based on real human playing data, if you're trying to write an undetectable auto clicker.

Even if the implementation is perfect, running the script for 12 to 14 hours, like you've said you are doing, is fundamentally in-human in itself, and could result in a ban just because you've ran the script for that amount of time. However it doesn't happen. You are not getting banned.

Why?

I highly doubt that it's because your script is undetectable. Especially when considering the fact that it has a similar ban-rate with auto clicker, despite the fact that the latter can be detected within seconds.

Considering the above, it's safe to assume that the only reason behind the low ban-rate of auto clicking, is the fact that they indulge the usage of this kind of third party automation tools.

 

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1 hour ago, Einstein said:

 

Since this information is only available to Jagex's detection team, nobody can offer you undeniable proof, but this should never stop us from making an educated guess.

First of all, the OP is referring to a notorious Visual Basic program that clicks at fixed intervals and has exactly 0 ms delay between the mouse-press and mouse-release events. I don't think I need to say anything more in regards to why this is probably the easiest to detect automation tool ever created for RuneScape.

You were referring to a custom created auto clicker that you attempted to calibrate in order to replicate real human clicking patterns. This is obviously better in terms of preventing detection than the program mentioned earlier, but it's still awfully easy to detect.

Assuming that over 95% of your auto-clicker's actions consist of clicking, it doesn't matter what kind of randomization you've used, because you are providing them with an immense amount of clicking data within a very short time-span. Within one hour, they will know precisely what are the minimum, maximum and average intervals for your clicks, as well all other related data that you wouldn't even think that they are tracking, that will make your script look incredibly different from a human player.

There are simply too many factors such as fatigue, human-like inevitable breaks, variance in performance, tendency and patterns of miss-clicking (yes, miss-clicks are not entirely random and every human miss-clicks in a slightly different way), inconsistency and many, many other factors that you need to take into account and add into you script based on real human playing data, if you're trying to write an undetectable auto clicker.

Even if the implementation is perfect, running the script for 12 to 14 hours, like you've said you are doing, is fundamentally in-human in itself, and could result in a ban just because you've ran the script for that amount of time. However it doesn't happen. You are not getting banned.

Why?

I highly doubt that it's because your script is undetectable. Especially when considering the fact that it has a similar ban-rate with auto clicker, despite the fact that the latter can be detected within seconds.

Considering the above, it's safe to assume that the only reason behind the low ban-rate of auto clicking, is the fact that they indulge the usage of this kind of third party automation tools.

 

Appreciate the well thought out response, and while I don't necessarily agree with your conclusion, your theory is sound. 

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