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Hello. :D

In the past 3-4 days, most of my suicide bots (40 - 70 accounts) got banned between 8:35AM and 8:56AM CEST - this is the time when suicide bots reach 10 hours + of botting with breaks. I am using 4 accounts per proxy. Is this the ordinary time to get banned around 9AM CEST?

Thanks. :D 

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2 hours ago, deva said:

Hello. :D

In the past 3-4 days, most of my suicide bots (40 - 70 accounts) got banned between 8:35AM and 8:56AM CEST - this is the time when suicide bots reach 10 hours + of botting with breaks. I am using 4 accounts per proxy. Is this the ordinary time to get banned around 9AM CEST?

Thanks. :D 

If Bot Busting still happens it's likely Weath and other so-called anti-cheating specialists hopping heavily botted locations and/or those complained about the most often on reddit and Twitter. For example, someone complains about hunter bots on reddit and he bans several hundred of them. He either went looking for them or had them in a backlog and expedited them. Did your ban say Major Macroing or Bot Busting Major/Moderate?

We also know from past posts, streams and dev blogs that they hold off banning people for several days once detected. These could go out at the time you were banned.

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6 minutes ago, Dukat said:

If Bot Busting still happens it's likely Weath and other so-called anti-cheating specialists hopping heavily botted locations and/or those complained about the most often on reddit and Twitter. For example, someone complains about hunter bots on reddit and he bans several hundred of them. He either went looking for them or had them in a backlog and expedited them. Did your ban say Major Macroing or Bot Busting Major/Moderate?

We also know from past posts, streams and dev blogs that they hold off banning people for several days once detected. These could go out at the time you were banned.

First, I think that I cannot get bot busted by Jagex moderators because I am NOT running bots during Jagex working hours and if I am right, they cannot login on their accounts unless they are in Jagex office.

Well I bot in locations where are maximum 2-3 bots per world (all of them are mine but are on different proxies) and it is not heavily botted location (and I have never seen any complaing on Reddit and Twitter so far) so it should be "safer".

I have Major Macroing ban on all of them.

All my suicide bots are created 2-3 hours with tutorial script before they start botting the main thing, so life expectancy is about 12-14 hours before they get banned (I think it is very short time, maybe it is how it should be). But once when they get banned I create another 4 accounts per one proxy on the next day (so far 20-30 bots created per one proxy in total and all of them got banned). By fact that all previous bots got banned and by creating another bunch of them could trigger that following accounts do get banned in almost same time as previous ones but that is just theoretical.

On the other hand IPs are not flagged, even though I got banned 20-30 accounts per one proxy. Because they were, I would not even make run bots for an hour if they were.

Also I think there could be MAYBE three factors that get me banned in almost same time.

The First (I think that could be main) is that I am running 4 suicide bots per one proxy (maybe it is too many per one proxy). In the past few days I tried same script and same break profile just on one bot. He managed to run 16-17 hour since creation before got banned. Comparing to 4 bots per proxy is only 12-14 hours since account creation.

The Second is that accounts which are running on same proxy have unique email addres just for one dedicated proxy. Lets say first 4 accounts have domain @windows95.com, another 4 accounts have domain @windows2000 and so on. Obviously email provider does not exist, so it is made up email. (I do not think that made up email adress could have any influence on getting banned by antibanning system unless jagex moderators check emails manually)

The third. I am going to write and example for that. So lets say that one of the accounts get detected by Jagex system and gets banned, so system checks if other accounts on the same IP are botting as well, in my case that is another 3, 4th one is banned now, so it bans all of them. And after that system checks if there are another bots in same locations. Again in my case that is 2-3 another bots per world with different proxy so jagex system continues the previous steps and the result is that all of them get banned almost instantly. This point is very unlikely to happen but still.

@Dukat it would be very helpful if you could comment on any of those things from your perspective. 

Thanks very much. :D 

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4 accounts & 1 ip & do the same & suicide = chainban

2 Accounts & do not the same & Change from 2 to the next 2 Accounts after a while = most accounts are alive

 

Other thing is that you maybe do things like woodcutting, fishing, combat & mining on f2p... If so just do random break times dont bot much more than 2 hours and switch

accounts!

Next u maybe use shitty scripts... Invest something for private one or go create some by urself...

All the antiban shit which should help to get ur accounts safe are that what will get ur account banned... Antiban = Ban

Fact:

No player will alltime change his camera or movement if he is Woodcutting or maybe do fishing, mining etc!

Good antiban is only get random mouse movement. 

I code scripts by myself not using this here cause i moved!

So i know what im talking about.

Greetings

 

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4 minutes ago, Kappalista said:

4 accounts && 1 ip && do the same && suicide = chainban

!4accounts && 2Accounts && do not the same && Change from 2 to the next 2 Accounts = All accounts are alive

 

Other thing is that you maybe do things like woodcutting, fishing, combat && mining on f2p... If so just do random break times dont bot much more than 2 hours and switch!

Next u maybe use shitty scripts... Invest something for private one or go create some by urself...

All the antiban shit which should help to get ur accounts safe are that what will get ur account banned... Antiban = Ban

Fact:

No player will do alltime change his camera or movement if he is Woodcutting or maybe do fishing, mining etc!

Good antiban is only get random mouse movement. 

I code scripts by myself not using this here cause i moved!

So i know what im talking about.

Greetings

 

Thanks for advice. :D

Please can you rephrase this sentence "!4accounts && 2Accounts && do not the same && Change from 2 to the next 2 Accounts = All accounts are alive". Because I did not understand that. :D 

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Botting is not that easy some people talk about.

You need time to expend your goldfarm, money for investments, a brain.........

All guys that talk about it like:

"Its so easy. I get 500$ a day running a farm i am the most rich kid of this world!" 

The only word is "Lier"!

A few good guys will do and get this they make between 500-1000$ a day. But they work hard for it and dont talk like that!

So get ur time, brain, investment and try all things by urself and you will see the money will come.

 

 

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1 hour ago, deva said:

@Dukat it would be very helpful if you could comment on any of those things from your perspective. 

Thanks very much. :D 

Sure.

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First, I think that I cannot get bot busted by Jagex moderators because I am NOT running bots during Jagex working hours and if I am right, they cannot login on their accounts unless they are in Jagex office.

As of 2 months ago Jagex was hiring people for weekends. This is no longer 100% accurate.

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Well I bot in locations where are maximum 2-3 bots per world (all of them are mine but are on different proxies) and it is not heavily botted location (and I have never seen any complaing on Reddit and Twitter so far) so it should be "safer".

What we consider heavily botted locations differs to people who can see heatmaps of reports.

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On the other hand IPs are not flagged, even though I got banned 20-30 accounts per one proxy. Because they were, I would not even make run bots for an hour if they were.

That's a lot. Most people do 2-3 accounts per proxy to avoid this exact scenario.

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 In the past few days I tried same script and same break profile just on one bot.

Try 5-10 one time breaks over single recurring ones. If I were to look at your logins and runtimes and they were all the same give or take half an hour it would raise flags for me.

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The third. I am going to write and example for that. So lets say that one of the accounts get detected by Jagex system and gets banned, so system checks if other accounts on the same IP are botting as well, in my case that is another 3, 4th one is banned now, so it bans all of them. And after that system checks if there are another bots in same locations. Again in my case that is 2-3 another bots per world with different proxy so jagex system continues the previous steps and the result is that all of them get banned almost instantly. This point is very unlikely to happen but still.

This isn't theoretical, they're called chain bans.

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Thanks for your help, @Dukat, but I think we should let the professional botters to give advice:

 

 

3 hours ago, Kappalista said:

figured it out to leave my whole goldfarm not to get banned its very simple... running 50+ accounts all are alive since 5 days

 

3 hours ago, Kappalista said:

the key for it is stop suiciding and put a bond on it! Go out of botting areas or bots like wc

 

58 minutes ago, Kappalista said:

4 accounts & 1 ip & do the same & suicide = chainban

2 Accounts & do not the same & Change from 2 to the next 2 Accounts after a while = most accounts are alive

 

58 minutes ago, Kappalista said:

Next u maybe use shitty scripts... Invest something for private one or go create some by urself...

All the antiban shit which should help to get ur accounts safe are that what will get ur account banned... Antiban = Ban

Good antiban is only get random mouse movement.

I code scripts by myself not using this here cause i moved!

So i know what im talking about.

 

 

47 minutes ago, Kappalista said:

The only word is "Lier"!

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Dukat said:

As of 2 months ago Jagex was hiring people for weekends. This is no longer 100% accurate.

From this point it does not even matter whenever I bot. Does it?

36 minutes ago, Dukat said:

Try 5-10 one time breaks over single recurring ones. If I were to look at your logins and runtimes and they were all the same give or take half an hour it would raise flags for me.

Until now I have not even known that you can run multiple break sessions per one profile. Wow that is huge fail for me. LUL :D 

Thanks again anyway. :D 

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It doesnt matter on which time of the day you bot. Like i said:

Use ur own scripts

No Antiban (except mouse movements)

Not more than 2 accounts on 1 IP (Dont let them do the same)

Dont use bot busted areas or skills

Put a bond on it...

Thats all factors to be safe... It give no 100% you will have alltime banrates but if you follow my instructions it will be as low as possible!

 

 

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36 minutes ago, Dukat said:

Lier

Whay you bulli me?

I know java you know? I can hack you you know?

4 hours ago, Kappalista said:

4 accounts && 1 ip && do the same && suicide = chainban

!4accounts && 2Accounts && do not the same && Change from 2 to the next 2 Accounts = All accounts are alive

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On 8/17/2017 at 3:33 AM, deva said:

Hello. :D

In the past 3-4 days, most of my suicide bots (40 - 70 accounts) got banned between 8:35AM and 8:56AM CEST - this is the time when suicide bots reach 10 hours + of botting with breaks. I am using 4 accounts per proxy. Is this the ordinary time to get banned around 9AM CEST?

Thanks. :D 

This is a bit off topic but I was wondering if you mind sharing how to run those amounts of accounts and whats required. if you could help that would be great thank you 

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